Episode 1: Who We Are | Meet Sam & Sharna
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Episode 1: Who Are We? Meet Sam & Sharna | Halfway to Healing Podcast
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Sharna: Hello everyone! Welcome to our very first episode of our podcast Halfway to Healing very exciting I'm Sharna
Sam: and I'm Sam. Today we're gonna kick things off by introducing ourselves. We are your hosts, Sam and Sharna and in this episode we're hoping that you'll get a glimpse into who we are, some of the experiences that shaped us, and why we've kind of decided to create this space and create this podcast for real, raw, lived experience conversations around mental and physical health
Sharna: So what we'll be doing is we'll be sharing parts of our own personal stories and struggles the healing process you know messy middle and what Halfway to Healing really means to us. Damn got a bit of a tongue twister there. Expect lots of honesty and a few chuckles. Maybe even a tear or two as we lay down this little journey that we're about to embark on
Sam: It is very important to remember that healing is not a finish line. There is no end to healing. It is very much a process and we're walking it or listening to what's - what's the ears equivalent of walking. I don't know. We're walking it halfway there right alongside you
Sharna: and we're not perfect, you know we might have little slip ups where you know this is a journey so let's get on into it
Sam: yeah I think there's something so, at least in my kind of experience, and I'll introduce myself a bit more but I just want to touch on that like that process kind of thing because I don't know about you Sharna but I know for myself like I in my in my healing journey process and all of that I've had so many ups and downs in but I know that where I am today is still the best and I know for myself it's very much about like okay what's like how can I be like a better version of myself today than I was yesterday
Sharna: absolutely yeah just like even if you're like that little 1% more
Sam: yeah
Sharna: than what you were yesterday
Sam: yeah
Sharna: that's still progress you know
Sam: alright so let's let's talk about ourselves
Sharna: yeah hahaha you know
Sam: oh my gosh do you know what's so funny is I like at uni and it when I do group therapy and like all of these things like the worst thing it's like as soon as someone's like tell me a bit about you I like forget every single thing I could possibly know about myself like I don't know anything
Sharna: share a fun fact about yourself
Sam: yeah
Sharna: no ha ha ha yeah flashback to Year 6 oh my goodness
Sam: oh good old uni icebreakers
Sharna: oh my goodness yeah
Sam: it's been a long time since I've done a uni icebreaker that's for sure
Sharna: gosh yeah
Sam: uh so let's let's start with like a little bit about who we are and where we've kind of come from you can take that literally you can take that metaphorically however you take where where are you from um that's totally fine
Sharna: yeah I'll kick things off so hello I'm Sharna as I already introduced myself um literally I literally I that sounded very like oh my goodness I originally from Tasmania in Australia then moved to Melbourne and now I live in sunny Queensland which I mean I've acclimatised to it now but I remember first like few years it was a winter and my brother and I were like this is not cold at all so um that's in a little literal whoa that's a hard word to say in a in a literal sense that is where I'm from
Sam: I remember when I went to Tassie like Tasmanian weather is like perfect for me yeah and I came back to a heatwave so it was like it was disgusting I like went from like 10 degree weather to 40 and I was like ha ha
Sharna: I know go back to Tassie it's so humid as well I'm like oh damn my goodness
Sam: hmm
Sharna: yeah that's me I guess where I'm that's me in a weird sense I guess um yeah I just finished uni a few months ago I did a bachelor degree in forensic science and I am about to do my masters soon hope you can hear the dog in the background what what jeez apologies for that um hopefully we'll get better audio as we progress um and so I am going to do my masters in biotechnology in a few months so might be a bit stressful hopefully will be good
Sam: Sharna is too science-y for my capabilities I'm Sam um my meds make my mouth so dry just like really suddenly so like as I went to talk my mouth is just like completely dried up and I'm like I can't get anything out um no I'm Sam um I'm 25 I literally am from Brisbane more specifically Logan I'm a I am very much a bogan and I've always been here um I lived in Argentina for a month uh as a teenager though um that was pretty cool um and done little mild travelling like I've been to Tasmania done like camping trips out down south in New South Wales and all around Queensland um I have a bachelor in design oh hiccup I know right um I majored in architectural studies and now I work as a graphic designer for my own business Angell Designs just a little plug um yeah and actually actually Shana is my administration assistant
Sharna: yeah
Sam: um it's not how we met um but it is how we I think I would say we like really became friends and got to know each other a lot more through some random day on the train you being like I need another job and me being like I have one
Sharna: that was so good oh my gosh um that's amazing
Sam: and I guess as well I just wanna talk about my lived experience "qualifications" um I am neurodiverse I have bipolar type 1 uh autism ADHD um and then a long slew of other health both mental and physical I have Lupus dealt with anxiety I've you know recovered from an eating disorder ugh it's a really long list when we were putting this together I was like I don't even know anymore I just have problems can I just say that can I just say I've got problems um so that's like my I "qualifications" I say in quotation marks um but yeah Sharna do you wanna share a little bit about your qualifications I'm rolling with qualifications
Sharna: my qualifications absolutely I will share my qualifications yeah so um you know um got depression anxiety um also recovered from an eating disorder that's actually how you and I met we met at um group therapy I guess um and then I guess like sleep issues I've had in the past um quite a few physical limitations so I was born with something called hip dysplasia I'll talk about talk more about that in a later episode and that's caused quite a few things with my joints as one can imagine um and yeah that's that's I think my short much sort of shorter list compared to yours yours is a bit
Sam: it's a bit lengthy I've I it's very much been like buy one get 7 free
Sharna: yeah absolutely
Sam: um I think I think it I I just think it's important as well that I know our aim to like collectively is to talk about things that we're directly impacted on and our experiences there because you know as you know we're talking about this from lived experience and you know if I haven't experienced XYZ or you haven't experienced XYZ I think it's very important to acknowledge that and also acknowledge we are not doctors and we are not no therapist we are not professionals I said qualifications but like it's you know and I and you know and knowing me I'll probably say this in every episode but this is my blanket in case I I'm not gonna forget but in case I forget it's you know if you do experience mental or physical health problems please talk to someone who is qualified um I think I think lived experience is really good to help you know not feel alone to not you know to help understand I know a lot of when I was investigating a lot of this stuff for myself um cause I had to investigate it on my own it was other people's experiences and hearing about that is kind of what got me there but I still and we will talk about this in in one or many episodes about my particular like I have not had a good time in the healthcare system but I've still gone and spoken to a professional so this is my blanket kind of caveat that if you do need help please please talk to a professional whether that's a counsellor a therapist a psychologist yeah um a GP. I know GPs can be really good for these things yeah um and of course if you're ever not safe please call your emergency number that in Australia that's 000 there are other emergency lines for mental health I don't know that number off the top of my head um but I'm you know we'll put all of this kind of stuff as well when we upload these things because it is important to be safe and it is important to look after yourself
Sharna: yeah very important yeah
Sam: it's my little disclaimer
Sharna: oh that was that was that was a great disclaimer it's very important to look after yourself and always reach out especially if you're in an emergency
Sam: hmm head to your nearest hospital it's like yeah you know have you ever like have you ever called a doctor or like a doctor's line and they're like please press 1 or 2 and if it's an emergency please head straight to your nearest hospital you have you
Sharna: I know like I wouldn't if it was an emergency I would have called 000 or like gone to an emergency like like a hospital or something you know if it was like
Sam: I just think it's look funny funny is probably not the right word but I do think it's funny my dark sense of humor coming on straight
Sharna: yeah yeah we're gonna
Sam: my dark sense of humor
Sharna: everyone's gonna be like my goodness sake I'm just used to it at this point
Sam: oh my gosh something I think that we could talk like talk a little about is like what does healing mean for you um well us cause not just you but like like what like what kind of what does healing mean to you I don't know how else to phrase that question
Sharna: oh gosh that's a good question
Sam: thank you yeah
Sharna: healing I think it just means to me personally being your best sort of authentic happy self not not even necessarily happy cause obviously you know like depression and other illnesses aren't always happy you know that's literally the meaning of depression yeah literally depression is like a long sadness you know um but just like trying your best and just like pushing yourself even through really hard bits um and not giving up I think that's very important when you're dealing with physical and mental health um because it can be very frustrating and upsetting and just wanting to give up but um you just have to sort of push through it you know
Sam: yeah and pushing through as well doesn't always mean getting out getting up going out
Sharna: oh absolutely
Sam: right like pushing through can absolutely just be making it through the day like pushing through can absolutely just be
Sharna: making it through the day
Sam: yeah like that's that's kind of enough you know yeah um it's definitely something I had to rework a lot is like what does pushing through and sometimes that does mean lying in bed all day and I wanna say I don't wanna say chilling cause it's not usually chilling but like I know what you mean yeah cool hopefully other people get what I mean too hmm no absolutely I think from I think it very much similar vein um to to what you said Sharna about like you know healing is very much like I said kind of at the beginning it for me it's very much like how can I be just even 1% better than I was yesterday yeah am I making sure to rest am I making like do I need to rest and you know checking in with what I need and sometimes what I want
Sharna: yeah absolutely
Sam: I say sometimes because sometimes what I want is like drugs and that's not good for you and for me it's like that's not gonna be better um but yeah yeah a lot of what I said it's about that process of just trying to improve yourself in whatever way yeah so I think that's kind of what healing is to me and and even I think even looking back as you know I relapsed or in my very in in my various different types of relapsing I still bounced back a lot I know I know for me I always thought that I wasn't doing the healing thing when I relapse but when I kind of look back on it now it's like actually no I bounce back a little like faster um you know and so things like like I relapsed with my eating disorder last year um and I and since I kind of got out of hospital everything has been really good and so even though I went through that kind of divot um and something I guess I wanna remind other people of is I've got I went through that divot but I came back and I was able to put I wanna say more energy in but like do you get I don't know what I'm trying to I don't know what the energy
Sharna: you just like more sort of hmm like not determined but like you're like I don't know
Sam: you know what I mean like there's more to that sentence but I don't know what it is um or I know with my alcohol and substance use my relapses got shorter and now you know in I think two weeks I'll be nine months sober so I know crazy um and so I get a little bit further even in my little divots I get a little bit further the next time yeah I kind of go in back go back into that healing journey
Sharna: yeah and I do absolutely notice that with you Sam like when you had your relapse with your eating disorder last year um I've noticed how quickly you've bounced back and especially um when your alcohol and substance abuse was slipping a bit again and now you're coming up to nine months now that's so crazy to me cause I remember
Sam: that's so crazy to me cause I remember the longest I've ever been
Sharna: I know you could ever not go that long before and now it's amazing
Sam: we've talked a lot about health already which is I know it's the purpose
Sharna: oh yeah I know just a little intro
Sam: a little intro but also I think it would be really cool for people to know a little bit about us outside of health like I I don't know about how you feel but I know for myself I'm so much more than just disorders and diagnosis and so
Sharna: yeah I hate it when people look at like someone that's you know disabled or ill or something and just see the person just for that because a person is so much more than like diagnosis like or diagnoses
Sam: so what's like a little fun fact about you now this really is an icebreaker question it's like what's the one fun fact
Sharna: oh fun fact about me I I am a very big true crime fan as you are already aware Sam oh yeah um it's really funny because I will listen to them um I'll listen to a bunch of podcasts especially like true crime ones to go to sleep um and I don't know I feel like you know when you're going to sleep that's like the most sort of like spooky sort of time and I meanwhile I'm listening to like people creeping around in the middle of the night killing people and I'm like hmm that's a bit
Sam: I don't know if this makes you feel normal or not but sometimes I watch horror movies to go to sleep so I mean it's probably in the same vein right
Sharna: and especially if I'm home alone or I'm house sitting and I'm like hmm get a bit paranoid if I hear like a possum outside or something I'm like hmm but I am a very big fan of true crime um
Sam: you know I don't know what this says about me but one of my biggest fears is that if I go missing like what people will say about me
Sharna: oh yeah like what you're identified
Sam: and not even not even not even in like a I think they'd say bad things but in a I think they'd lie
Sharna: I would not lie if you went missing Sam I'd be like well they got a lot of shit going on
Sam: right but I'm like so worried people are gonna be like well Sam they got along with everybody they were such and I'm like uh they did not that's my that's my one of one of my biggest fears is is that people will lie if I go missing
Sharna: well you can count on me I will not lie I'll be like how do I oh my God it reminds me of um you know when mean girls when they're like how do I begin to explain Regina George it's like how do I begin to explain Sam
Sam: hahaha
Sharna: I heard that they do car commercials in Japan
Sam: hmm yeah this is a mean girls monologue um montage of of just people's names
Sharna: absolutely yeah
Sam: if I go missing um
Sharna: yeah absolutely yeah I love me some true crime I collect bugs more specifically butterflies and moths um so I guess sort of staying within the realm of that sort of morbid spooky weirdness um I have a little collection of taxidermied awesome butterflies I love them so much yeah I think that's some little fun facts about me
Sam: I'll just start worrying when you start collecting like squirrels
Sharna: oh yeah yeah
Sam: when it's like like mammals and stuff then I'll be like okay that's that's too far Sharna
Sharna: and one that's like not in a frame and you're like Sharna where did you get that I'm like
Sam: yes
Sharna: don't worry about it
Sam: nothing wrong with nothing wrong with anybody who collects taxidermy squirrels I would be concerned in Australia we don't have squirrels but like nothing wrong with it but I might raise an eyebrow at you specifically Sharna if you start collecting taxidermy squirrels
Sharna: if you see like some blood just like yeah around in my room you're like
Sam: what are you doing with that doing with that forensic science degree
Sharna: mmm hmm yeah absolutely
Sam: I think my my fun fact look I think this is the funniest fact that I've got and it's that I can recite all 10 seasons of friends
Sharna: oh yeah
Sam: yeah that's my fun fact
Sharna: yeah oh my gosh
Sam: and like sometimes out of context but it's especially funny when my friends or my partner and I are watching friends together I'll say the line before it's actually delivered and then I start or I'll start laughing before the line said cause I know what it is and it's very entertaining watching me watch friends friends is one of my special interests so I very much know a lot about it and I know I've seen it so many times it's my main get to sleep thing is friends yeah um I love that we both pick things that we use to help get to sleep yeah um so it's like in my subconscious like ingrained in my subconscious the lines of friends I'm actually up to season 7 at the moment
Sharna: damn very good mmm what season I can't remember what happens
Sam: oh it's the season where Monica and Chandler are planning their wedding so they get married at the end of season 7
Sharna: nice very good
Sam: mmm it's not as good as season 5
Sharna: is that when they get together
Sam: yeah yeah season 5 is the best season
Sharna: okay I see what would you say you've learned throughout your health journey
Sam: look so
Sharna: I know it's a tough one right
Sam: pick one um I actually thik the biggest thing that I've Learned and I still think I'm learning it but it's actually asking for help I was notoriously bad at being like actually I need help right now
Sharna: yeah
Sam: and it's so hard to learn especially when I've got so much like you're a burden and kind of thoughts and that's like ingrained in me that I'm like oh how do I ask someone for help I know I need help yeah and how to ask like medical professionals for help as well it's but I'm so much better at it now yeah and sometimes asking for help isn't even like for me at least isn't always just being like hey I need help sometimes it's just kind of acknowledging how I'm feeling
Sharna: absolutely
Sam: but I'm not doing well and it's like saying to you know my partner or saying mostly my partner or my friends or whoever hey actually I'm having a really shit time right now there's not really anything you can do to help I'm just letting you know and like sometimes that's like enough and being more I guess communicative yeah that's a word yeah I know it's a word but it just like came out weird
Sharna: I got that absolutely
Sam: um so yeah there's I mean there's that I mean I've learnt heaps of other things something I'm learning a lot at the moment is balance like how do I balance self care um work personal hobby like all of these things um without like completely burning myself out I'm very much not great at that still yeah um but I'm getting better yeah that's kind of the whole point um I get told a lot by health professionals that I'm really self aware which is actually like my biggest downfall like I know there's shit wrong with my brain of fuck ha ha I live it I know it yup um and I know not everyone has self awareness but but it's it's often weaponized against me so it's the learning for me is less learning okay what does this mean for an ADHD brain what does this mean for you know I like all of these things I know the learning for me has a lot has been a lot to do with okay how do I put that in practice
Sharna: yeah
Sam: so that I can heal so that I can be better so that I can get through another day um like that's been the self awareness has been so weaponised against me and it's like I get it I get that I'm aware of this but also I need you to help me hmm not just be living it but like rather
Sharna: absolutely yeah
Sam: improving yeah
Sharna: mm hmm
Sam: what about you what is like the thing
Sharna: oh yeah I like absolutely agree with um with you um asking for help like for sure that's I think something that I I think I'm still working on it um but I think that was probably a big turnaround I'd say for me I think my well my mental health especially I reckon which you'll hear about more in a later episode um probably my eating disorder asking for help for that one because as like we'll talk about and as you know Sam they're very secretive and quite competitive um so um I was there were were all these people around me quite worried um but obviously I didn't want to seek that help because I in my mind was not sick enough which obviously we're gonna talk about that cause that's oh my goodness um but I think finally being like hey I'm not okay sort of I guess gave me I guess the strength to like seek out help for other things cause that's when everything else sort of was like well it's not just the eating disorder it's this and this and this that are all associated with it so getting that initial help is very important
Sam: and sometimes just on like getting that initial help and which I'm sure we'll talk about this I didn't ask for help with my eating disorder until three years into my treatment yeah like I was like I was already in treatment and I was like I'm fine I'm fine um so yeah sometimes even I think it's you know important to just note that sometimes even if you're in treatment and people are helping you yeah you're I know for me I was still not asking for that help I was very much being forced on me and that's happened in a lot of different not just with my eating disorder but a lot of different things where it's been like I've not been ready or I don't want the help or I don't think I'm deserving of the help so I'm not asking for it even though help is being forced upon me
Sharna: yeah yeah
Sam: um so but I think it's such an interesting point that you make about you know people people can be really concerned about you
Sharna: mm hmm
Sam: um and it is why as I like it is why self awareness is is important and you know I just think it's also good to know that just because you are just because you are aware that something's wrong yeah doesn't mean you want help or
Sharna: absolutely
Sam: yeah doesn't mean you want help or absolutely you can ask for help or that you know how to even help yourself
Sharna: yeah and taking that first step and speaking up and like asking for it is so huge and you know I was so scared I was crying you know when I was like I need help um it's yes it's takes a lot of courage to take that first step
Sam: no absolutely
Sharna: here’s a good one what has been a big defining moment in your health journey
Sam: huh hahaha
Sharna: another tough one right
Sam: I think the biggest thing for me was getting my diagnosis of bipolar ASD and ADHD I got them all at once
Sharna: yeah
Sam: I've got yeah um and I didn't I didn't expect to I did when I got it I didn't expect to be to also get to also get to also be diagnosed with autism and
Sharna: here's your autism
Sam: yeah here's your autism oh my gosh could you imagine um I I fought a lot for my diagnosis for any kind of diagnosis I was misdiagnosed I was treated really poorly um by the hospital system and you know I'd been through a lot at that point I you know was homeless for a brief amount of time um because of a lot of these things I was in and out of I was living in and out of hospital um for some time and just not really being listened to so it was really it was a really defining moment when I was when it was finally kind of made sense and clicked where it was like okay I'm not just some insane unhelpable I don't think that's a word yeah unhelpable I'm making it a word unhelpable person
Sharna: yeah
Sam: um that to me is was massively defining I think another really defining moment in my recovery especially with my eating disorder was finding my gender identity as well
Sharna: yeah
Sam: um like I didn't know I don't know if it was cause I was so bugged down in the eating disorder or all the other crap going on in my life but I as part of my like healing and my recovery I very much managed to find who I was um and and that in us in itself was a really long journey but I never if it wasn't for recovery and in recovery from my eating disorder I wouldn't I wouldn't have known that I was non binary I wouldn't have you know I would have just kind of had this uncomfortableness forever so those are like the I know you said a defining moment but there's two for
Sharna: you can have multiple
Sam: yeah I just I mean I mean there's heaps of defining moments and yeah you know every day something else happens and yeah you know I could probably sit here and bucket list yeah yeah defining them as like key pivotal aspects but those two I think are the biggest yeah um interesting that they're both around identity though
Sharna: yeah hmm
Sam: it's like identity is important to humans
Sharna: who would have thought
Sam: who would have fucking thought
Sharna: yeah
Sam: yeah do you have any like any defining moments that kind of stick out for you
Sharna: yeah I think finding like finally finding what worked best for me not like both like med wise and professional wise so this is the I wanna say 4th psychologist and you know some people you know hit the nail on the head they find the right psychologist that works for them right away
Sam: I did not
Sharna: yeah exactly
Sam: I did not yeah
Sharna: um so this is the fourth this is the like I think this is my fourth psychologist and you know maybe more maybe less um and I think she has really helped me understand and think about things in a way that I was not able to before and you know it's just finding that right person I think that sort of understands it and obviously finding the right meds that work for you as well um so I feel like for me personally I only started seeing my current psychologist maybe about halfway through last year so coming up a year and I think what we talk about has just made me I'm not quite sure how to phrase it but it's just it's really helped and I think that's definitely helped in my recovery process
Sam: yeah
Sharna: that makes sense
Sam: no it makes a lot of sense and I mean there's so much about psychologists I mean I've been with my psychologist for five years now which is a really long time but also I mean it took me a long time to get there I mean like a long time to get there and even getting to a point with my current psychologist that I felt comfortable actually opening up about things you know like even that was I mean I didn't really start doing that until last year and I've been seeing her for four years um but I think there's a lot to be said about when you get to that comfortable spot and it is and it is it takes a long time to get there um
Sharna: definitely
Sam: you know and cause every we're all people like you don't get along with everybody and one of my biggest like pet peeves I guess is like when people just expect everybody to love you and it's like you're not gonna get along no well I even if everybody did love you you are not gonna get along with everybody um you know that's just how the world works and you know I think expecting and it's hard especially you know when you pay for these services and you and you know there's there's other strings and it's like it not everyone is in a position to be exactly trialing health professionals or things like that um but unfortunately because it's another person it is a trial yeah could you imagine if like therapists did what I did and do like a free half hour chat with you
Sharna: oh that would be great
Sam: I know right just see if you vibe
Sharna: yeah
Sam: oh they should call it like a vibe check or something like that's what therapist you know therapist should just offer it's just like a half hour telehealth just yeah see if you match um cause that's what I do I like check that I'm gonna be able to work well with my clients you know
Sharna: exactly
Sam: that's what we need in the health setting so you don't like yeah fork out 300 bucks and you and
Sharna: I know
Sam: it's and realize it's a bad match yeah
Sharna: oh yeah I know oh
Sam: all of the ughs from Sharna
Sharna: oh because that's so expensive like I saw like I see a psychiatrist as well who I I mean I only see him
Sam: what's that like hahaha
Sharna: I literally I talk to him for like two minutes he's like how are your meds going Sharna I'm like they're good he's like fair enough keep it up then I go out and I get to reception they're like that'll be $300 and I'm like I talked to him for like a minute oh yeah thankfully I do get rebated quite a decent amount but oh man
Sam: I hit my Medicare threshold for the year and I'm so pumped I cost me like 20 bucks
Sharna: nice
Sam: pocket to see my psych on on Thursday I was like hell yeah
Sharna: yeah
Sam: oh hmm living it up with my rebates
Sharna: oh I know the first time I hit the threshold and I paid and it was like $20 I was like what
Sam: yeah
Sharna: you mean that session was like $20 what do you mean oh I was I was so excited I think I even messaged you I was like oh my god Sam
Sam: yeah I think I remember that yeah
Sharna: I was like my psych session was $20
Sam: not not not me hitting the rebate in April
Sharna: I know
Sam: the threshold in April if you could tell your younger self one thing about life and healing what would it be
Sharna: oh that was a really good one I was looking at that one on the list and I was like damn save that one for last yeah oh um I think I would tell myself I think I probably give myself a hug first of all um
Sam: oh that's cute a little young you a little cuddle
Sharna: a little hug first and I think I'd say hmm it's probably gonna get harder before it gets better but not to sound cliche but there is the light at the end of the tunnel and the hard work is it's worth it even though it's gonna suck sometimes hmm it's gonna be really hard yeah really fucking hard
Sam: I would not give my younger self a hug simply because they did not like hugs
Sharna: yeah younger you was a bit a bit of a wild card
Sam: you think you oh yeah also that bitch might stab me um um yeah you think I'm weird with hugs now I was way worse when I was younger oh my gosh um I think I would tell them I think I would tell them that this is also kind of cliche yeah but very much like everything is kind of happening for a reason yeah like I don't think I don't I think I would laugh or kind of be like what are you talking about if I said anything like it gets better like I'd be like cause for me it got a whole fucking lot worse
Sharna: yeah
Sam: oh my gosh um it's better now but like I just don't
Sharna: yeah
Sam: you know like like you said at the beginning like that authenticity but I think definitely I would you know tell myself that I'm gonna meet the right people ho are gonna support me and yeah that that I think that's what I would tell my younger self I still probably wouldn't have believed it if someone
Sharna: I don't think I would either
Sam: but yeah hmm any any final thoughts on today
Sharna: oh no I think I'm excited to see what this journey has ahead for us
Sam: hmm
Sharna: excited to share our stay our our stairies my goodness our stories um and our experiences hopefully connect with other people let them know you're not alone I guess
Sam: it's another good thing I'd tell my younger self you know what I mean um yeah I'm I'm very excited for this um you know this has been I mean I originally came up with a very similar idea about this time last year just maybe May June last year and then did nothing with it and and then I wasn't even sure we'd had this conversation cause I was you know psychotic and dealing with the psychosis when we had that conversation
Sharna: hahaha yes you called me up the next day you're like did we have a conversation about it
Sam: did we talk about it
Sharna: yes that was so funny cause I don't think I knew it that time like I think I knew you were a bit manic at it but I don't think you were in like full blown psychosis so when you called me you were like did we have a conversation I was like yes
Sam: um but next week we'll get into it we're gonna be talking about um anxiety and how it's not just worry um especially from like physical symptoms and daily impacts and things like that that we've experienced yeah um with our anxiety and I'm very excited to talk about that and yeah awesome thank you everyone for listening
Sharna: thank you
Sam: um we've got an Instagram um it's halfway to healing it's our little icon um and feel free to subscribe or comment or like or do all the social things you know get the word out I hate saying that
Sharna: right thumbs up no
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Sharna: give us a like go like our socials um
Sam: yeah and I look forward to the next episode
Sharna: yeah so do I